magnetic oil drain plugs

III.II · 11-07-2009, 5:08 AM

Anyone using an magnetic oil drain plug on here?

Are these useful in any way?

OR

Are they a complete waste of money?

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I Go To Costco · 11-07-2009, 5:49 AM

Of course. It'll keep all the metal shavings, if any from circulating back through your engine. The sump filter usually won't block all of the tiny stuff.

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 10:04 AM

oem drain plug. never had a problem.

01tl4tl · 11-07-2009, 12:13 PM

I got `stick like` magnets at harbor freight- $1 each, and slap 2 on the outside of the oil filter
They are made to be used inside the filter but are too long for the TL

Everything you can do will help- including run a cleaner like seafoam thru the oil before change- the sludge on tv is real~

friesm2000 · 11-07-2009, 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajca

oem drain plug. never had a problem.

x2

but now if you had some serious issues with your engine, they might help, but the best thing you can do for your engine is change your oil every 3,000 miles and put in quality oil (valvoline, castrol, etc) with a quality filter (especially one that has a antidrain back valve in it, so it builds pressure faster)

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 8:18 PM

^o man. i feel another thread jacked about oil.
some ppl go to 7500 and some go to 10000. all personal preference. i go no more past 3500 or 3 month. but i drive my cl hard.

friesm2000 · 11-07-2009, 8:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajca

^o man. i feel another thread jacked about oil.
some ppl go to 7500 and some go to 10000. all personal preference. i go no more past 3500 or 3 month. but i drive my cl hard.

01tl4tl · 11-07-2009, 8:49 PM

for the average driver- the TL is set up to go 7500 between changes, thats why the oil minder is set for 7500,,starting at about 6500 till you reset it

Extreme temps or driving style, lots of short trips.. do merit changing sooner
get an oil analysis done and see what you can be doing for oil life and exactly what metal bits are in the oil- all parts wear and certain amounts are expected- while others indicate trouble in the works

Its my opinion that car makers and oil makers are in colusion and the standard is set at 7500-so oil is made to last 8000 then certain needed additives wear out

friesm2000 · 11-07-2009, 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01tl4tl

for the average driver- the TL is set up to go 7500 between changes, thats why the oil minder is set for 7500,,starting at about 6500 till you reset it

Extreme temps or driving style, lots of short trips.. do merit changing sooner
get an oil analysis done and see what you can be doing for oil life and exactly what metal bits are in the oil- all parts wear and certain amounts are expected- while others indicate trouble in the works

Its my opinion that car makers and oil makers are in colusion and the standard is set at 7500-so oil is made to last 8000 then certain needed additives wear out

the average driver should follow the severe maintence scheadle, especially with stop and go traffic

(cause they would fit the descripton very well)

ANC297 · 11-07-2009, 11:12 PM

I too throw a 2 3/4 inch by 3/4 inch magnet onto the side of the filter...They are a few cents at radioshack, so I guess it can't hurt. I check every once in a while, if it falls off which has yet to happen, I will put another one on.

nhn23 · 11-08-2009, 2:14 PM

where would the metal shavings come from in the first place?

Rajca · 11-08-2009, 3:47 PM

wear and tear, dry starts.

**fsttyms1** · 11-08-2009, 9:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friesm2000

the average driver should follow the severe maintence scheadle, especially with stop and go traffic

(cause they would fit the descripton very well)

Oh please. 3k is way to often and a waste of money. My car would idle all day with tons of fast stop and go. If that wasnt severe i dont know what was. i went 8k on average (with regular oil) and the oil life was fine (had oil tested)

friesm2000 · 11-08-2009, 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsttyms1

Oh please. 3k is way to often and a waste of money. My car would idle all day with tons of fast stop and go. If that wasnt severe i dont know what was. i went 8k on average (with regular oil) and the oil life was fine (had oil tested)

then why did my engine not have the brown tint (looked brand new with oil just on it) on the front bank when i just adjusted the valves at 104k (pictures through oil fill); back had some brown tint due to running hotter being at the back of the engine compartment

btw : that was the first time the valve covers have been off since new/built over 6 years ago

and i am not taking them off again just for pictures

tmnhs81 · 11-09-2009, 3:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01tl4tl

I got `stick like` magnets at harbor freight- $1 each, and slap 2 on the outside of the oil filter
They are made to be used inside the filter but are too long for the TL

Everything you can do will help- including run a cleaner like seafoam thru the oil before change- the sludge on tv is real~

YOu can also add a little bit of any ATF every other oil change OR a few (hundred) miles before oil change. Its a great degreaser and lubricant.

probmxstyle · 11-09-2009, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friesm2000

then why did my engine not have the brown tint (looked brand new with oil just on it) on the front bank when i just adjusted the valves at 104k (pictures through oil fill); back had some brown tint due to running hotter being at the back of the engine compartment

btw : that was the first time the valve covers have been off since new/built over 6 years ago

and i am not taking them off again just for pictures

Mine look the same with 110K miles and 7500K oil changes. Honda says 7500k, what is your reason for not trusting them on that? Have you run your oil to 7500k and have issues?

CJITTY · 11-09-2009, 1:05 PM

been doing 10K oil changes with Mobil 1 and K&N Filter..oem plug, no issues. Started using Castrol Full Syn just for the helluvit, still no issues

Neejay · 11-09-2009, 1:54 PM

Might have to try the magnet trick. I just did an oil change yesterday, and was also curious about a magnetic drain plug.

I use 5w-30 Mobil 1 Syn + NAPA Gold (Wix) filter.

hANDYcaptd · 11-09-2009, 3:16 PM

OEM plug here. No issues.

nhn23 · 11-09-2009, 5:03 PM

why are people using 5.30 when our cars call for 5.20? well atleast mine calls for that (2002)

friesm2000 · 11-09-2009, 5:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhn23

why are people using 5.30 when our cars call for 5.20? well atleast mine calls for that (2002)

because 5W-30 offers better protection
and the biggest reason why honda specced 5W-20 was to squeeze out that last bit of mileage (and less emissions) when they did the EPA testing and fuel economy testing

01tl4tl · 11-10-2009, 3:50 AM

in reality- the engine oil has a nice big filter thats replaced every time, so it should be catching all the metal particles

the trans uses a magnetic plug because it doesnt have the same type filter system, so a magnet holds whatever comes past it instead

. N B P . · 11-10-2009, 5:02 AM

^ is this what you guys do?

My oil change is coming up and was looking into this oil filter magnets.

hANDYcaptd · 11-10-2009, 8:28 AM

^ Some put it on the inside, some put it on the outside.

01tl4tl · 11-10-2009, 10:29 AM

on the old chevy truck filter it fits inside like the pic, so thats where I ran it with no issues

The TL filter is shorter than the magnet and wont fit inside fully without snapping in half--which is easy to do but leaves a rough edge--does breaking it affect the magnet?- I dont know-
So they now go on the outside of the filter at full length
No problem with falling off- also use them on the bike (which happens to use a TL filter)
and gets a lot more road debris damage potential and bumps trying to throw it off

In theory they should be working thru the can- at least we can feel that we are going the extra step
Just like you dont need synthetic oil but it makes you feel better

friesm2000 · 11-10-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01tl4tl

on the old chevy truck filter it fits inside like the pic, so thats where I ran it with no issues

The TL filter is shorter than the magnet and wont fit inside fully without snapping in half--which is easy to do but leaves a rough edge--does breaking it affect the magnet?- I dont know-
So they now go on the outside of the filter at full length
No problem with falling off- also use them on the bike (which happens to use a TL filter)
and gets a lot more road debris damage potential and bumps trying to throw it off

In theory they should be working thru the can- at least we can feel that we are going the extra step
Just like you dont need synthetic oil but it makes you feel better

i would say thru-can one's are proably not as effective, because they have a greater distace to attract metal particles, and will attract to the filter itself housing first, but if it is has sufficent strength it should still attract metal particles

but the funny thing is there are alot non-ferrios (exp. aluminuim ) metals in engines now a days, so maybe not as effective now, then back in the day, (crankshaft, rods, oil pump, cams, rockers ,springs, etc., etc. are still ferrious though)

, so a quality filter is still a must

'02_TL-S · 11-10-2009, 7:22 PM

Hmm..I'm liking this magnet idea for the tranny filter. Help that little plug magnet out some cuz I can't imagine such a small magnetic area is catching everything. Thanks for the idea guys!!

AMGala · 11-11-2009, 10:41 AM

What if you put some of those magnets on the bottom of the oil pan?

01tl4tl · 11-11-2009, 1:09 PM

yes you can do that too, but you want the stuff to drain out so remove it before oil change

A filter of any decent quality- meaning more than a roll of toilet paper in a can-
is catching the particles--or acura would use a magnetic drain plug
There is still wear on parts that will be attracted to a magnet- and if its captured in the can to its inner edge- thats cool by me

My concern on using a broken-to-fit magnet was adding micro particles from its rough edge into the system- creating a problem where none existed

hANDYcaptd · 11-11-2009, 2:15 PM

And I would slide the magnets to the drain plug, then removing them. That way you'll get the particles closer to the drain to be flushed out.

11-07-2009, 10:04 AM	#3
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,758	oem drain plug. never had a problem. __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 12:13 PM	#4
01tl4tl Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 17,433	I got `stick like` magnets at harbor freight- $1 each, and slap 2 on the outside of the oil filter They are made to be used inside the filter but are too long for the TL Everything you can do will help- including run a cleaner like seafoam thru the oil before change- the sludge on tv is real~ __________________ Its fine until the tcs lights on and D5 flashing and the car barely will pull. I have to shut it off and it will be fine until it does it again. Is this a problem?

11-07-2009, 8:18 PM	#6
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,758	^o man. i feel another thread jacked about oil. some ppl go to 7500 and some go to 10000. all personal preference. i go no more past 3500 or 3 month. but i drive my cl hard. __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 11:12 PM	#10
ANC297 Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 24 Posts: 468	I too throw a 2 3/4 inch by 3/4 inch magnet onto the side of the filter...They are a few cents at radioshack, so I guess it can't hurt. I check every once in a while, if it falls off which has yet to happen, I will put another one on. __________________ 2002 WDP Tl-S. NiteShop knows NO LIMIT " Successes have many fathers, failures have none.”

11-08-2009, 3:47 PM	#12
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,758	wear and tear, dry starts. __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 8:49 PM	#8
01tl4tl Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 17,433	for the average driver- the TL is set up to go 7500 between changes, thats why the oil minder is set for 7500,,starting at about 6500 till you reset it Extreme temps or driving style, lots of short trips.. do merit changing sooner get an oil analysis done and see what you can be doing for oil life and exactly what metal bits are in the oil- all parts wear and certain amounts are expected- while others indicate trouble in the works Its my opinion that car makers and oil makers are in colusion and the standard is set at 7500-so oil is made to last 8000 then certain needed additives wear out

11-08-2009, 2:14 PM	#11
nhn23 I live in Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: philly Age: 21 Posts: 561	where would the metal shavings come from in the first place?

11-09-2009, 1:05 PM	#17
CJITTY Jeri Curl Drippin In My 2003 Acura TL TYPE-S Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: ATL Shawwwwtyyyy Age: 35 Posts: 3,160	been doing 10K oil changes with Mobil 1 and K&N Filter..oem plug, no issues. Started using Castrol Full Syn just for the helluvit, still no issues __________________ 2003 Acura TL Type S - NAVI WDP / OEM Body Kit / OEM Honda 19x8 HFP Wheels (55 Offset) / 235/35/19 General Exclaim UHP Tires / EBC Ultimaxx Dashed Rotors / Akebono ProACT Brake Pads / H&R Sport Springs part #50103 / CTE Icebox / UR SC Crank Pulley / Ingalls Rear Camber Kit #38720 / HID Front and Rear Fog Lights / 15% Door 5% Rear Tint / De-Badged / Trunk Lip Spoiler

11-09-2009, 1:54 PM	#18
Neejay Registered User Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Not, Sure Posts: 173	Might have to try the magnet trick. I just did an oil change yesterday, and was also curious about a magnetic drain plug. I use 5w-30 Mobil 1 Syn + NAPA Gold (Wix) filter. __________________ - 2003 TL-S - WDP w/ Black interior \| Tokico HP/H&R Sport \| CAI/AEM Dryflow filter \| 3000k HID Fogs \| Mid-muffler delete\| Option Underdrive pulley \| Comptech Rear sway bar/ES poly D-bushings \| Rotora slotted rotors/pads (front) - 1991 Nissan 240sx, RB25DET Series-II - stuff

11-09-2009, 3:16 PM	#19
hANDYcaptd I drive slow in my 2002 Acura TL Type-S Trader Rating: (4) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philly, PA Age: 21 Posts: 2,078	OEM plug here. No issues.

11-09-2009, 5:03 PM	#20
nhn23 I live in Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: philly Age: 21 Posts: 561	why are people using 5.30 when our cars call for 5.20? well atleast mine calls for that (2002)

11-10-2009, 3:50 AM	#22
01tl4tl Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 17,433	in reality- the engine oil has a nice big filter thats replaced every time, so it should be catching all the metal particles the trans uses a magnetic plug because it doesnt have the same type filter system, so a magnet holds whatever comes past it instead __________________ Its fine until the tcs lights on and D5 flashing and the car barely will pull. I have to shut it off and it will be fine until it does it again. Is this a problem?

11-10-2009, 5:02 AM	#23
. N B P . Nighthawk Black Pearl Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 290	^ is this what you guys do? My oil change is coming up and was looking into this oil filter magnets. __________________ 2002 TL-P NBP

11-10-2009, 8:28 AM	#24
hANDYcaptd I drive slow in my 2002 Acura TL Type-S Trader Rating: (4) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philly, PA Age: 21 Posts: 2,078	^ Some put it on the inside, some put it on the outside.

11-10-2009, 10:29 AM	#25
01tl4tl Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 17,433	on the old chevy truck filter it fits inside like the pic, so thats where I ran it with no issues The TL filter is shorter than the magnet and wont fit inside fully without snapping in half--which is easy to do but leaves a rough edge--does breaking it affect the magnet?- I dont know- So they now go on the outside of the filter at full length No problem with falling off- also use them on the bike (which happens to use a TL filter) and gets a lot more road debris damage potential and bumps trying to throw it off In theory they should be working thru the can- at least we can feel that we are going the extra step Just like you dont need synthetic oil but it makes you feel better

11-10-2009, 7:22 PM	#27
'02_TL-S Rollin' in a 2002 Acura TL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tualatin, OR Posts: 473	Hmm..I'm liking this magnet idea for the tranny filter. Help that little plug magnet out some cuz I can't imagine such a small magnetic area is catching everything. Thanks for the idea guys!!

11-11-2009, 10:41 AM	#28
AMGala Smiley Storyteller 2003 Acura TL Trader Rating: (2) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: CT Age: 25 Posts: 6,840	What if you put some of those magnets on the bottom of the oil pan? __________________ 2003 TL-P in WDP: Supercomputers Pedals & Door Sills \| Comptech Headers & Cat-Back Exhaust \| RT Cat \| Kaixen 6000K HID Lows & Fogs \| OEM Kit w/ WW Spoiler \| Neuspeed Strut Bar \| Eibach Springs on Tokico HPs \| Rotora Slotted Rotors & Ceramic Pads \| 225/50/17 Goodyear ResponsEdges on CL-S Rims \| 10mm Kics Project Spacers \| 3G 6MT 20mm RSB \| UR UD Pulley \| Comptech SS Brakelines \| More...

11-11-2009, 1:09 PM	#29
01tl4tl Registered User Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 17,433	yes you can do that too, but you want the stuff to drain out so remove it before oil change A filter of any decent quality- meaning more than a roll of toilet paper in a can- is catching the particles--or acura would use a magnetic drain plug There is still wear on parts that will be attracted to a magnet- and if its captured in the can to its inner edge- thats cool by me My concern on using a broken-to-fit magnet was adding micro particles from its rough edge into the system- creating a problem where none existed

11-11-2009, 2:15 PM	#30
hANDYcaptd I drive slow in my 2002 Acura TL Type-S Trader Rating: (4) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philly, PA Age: 21 Posts: 2,078	And I would slide the magnets to the drain plug, then removing them. That way you'll get the particles closer to the drain to be flushed out.