Richie v6

RV6-Performance needs your support in order to bring an exciting new product to the market. As most of you know. Newer Honda engines no longer individual exhaust ports from each cylinder on the heads. They are all merged in to one large port within the cylinder head. This port is directly bolted to a precat which is then connected to the jpipe. The OEM precats are mass produced with small diameter piping, restrictive stampings and converters. They are great for emissions and cost but terrible for performance.


OEM Precats

Over the past year we have been receiving many requests to make precat deletes also known as PCDs for the new 08+ Honda J-Series engines. PCDs are well known amongst the 7th generation Accord and 3rd generation TL for being the best “bang for buck mod” Unfortunately Honda has change their precat flange design and added a EGR port on all new models after 08. Making our current design no longer compatible with the newer engines.


Prototype 08+ PCDs

In order to ensure that PCDs would work without complications on the new J-series engine. A set of tester precat deletes were tested on a 2009 Accord coupe 6MT with positive results. After 800+ miles on road there is no check engine light or negative side effects.



The RV6 PCDs combined with a RV6 Long tube Jpipe produced impressive results on a Dynojet dynamometer. With power gained throughout the entire power band. Especially in the more important low and mid range torque.

Introducing the RV6 cast stainless precat deletes and high flow precats for the 08+ J-series V6 engines. These castings will be used to make precat deletes and high flow precats (HFPCs) They were designed completely using 3D CAD and CMM. The transition from flange to pipe or high flow cat is made from precision casted 304 stainless steel. This allows for optimum turbulence free flow with no sacrifice in strength. The castings are no thinner then 5mm at their thinnest point, roughly 3 times thicker then the prototype and previous PCDs. We are confident that these castings can handle any abuse without cracking.






The PCDs will replace your precats with straight pipe for maximum flow. The disadvantage with this is that it will make your exhaust smell and your car much louder. For those who want a good compromise between performance and comfort. We will also be offering HFPCs as well, which replaces your existing precats with performance oriented 200 cell high flow converters. These high flow converters will reduce the exhaust fumes and sound increase associated with PCDs.

As you can tell the prototypes shown are just plastic rapid prototype models. In order for us to have the tooling made for the custom castings. We will require ~20 deposits for either the PCDs or HFPCs. Spread the word let’s make this happen for 2011.

The introductory pricing will be $349 for the PCDs and $549 for the HFPCs. We will start by collecting $160 deposits. You can check how many deposits have been collected by checking the remaining quantity on the site.

Deposit here
08+ Accord 09+ TL PCDs & HFPCs


Specs:
- 304 Stainless cast stainless flange sections.
- 304 Stainless 2.25” tubing
- TIG welded
- Argon back gassed for pure welds
- Includes new gaskets, O2 simulators and hardware

Applications:
- Honda Accord (V6) 08+
- Honda Pilot 09+
- Honda Ridgeline 09+
- Honda Odyssey 09+
- Acura TL 09+
- Acura TSX (V6) 09+
- Acura RL 09+

Read more about the V3 PCDs for the 3rd gen TL and 7th gen Accord here.
Introducing RV6 V3 Precat Deletes Taking Deposits

eazy

iTrader: (8)

I PM'd you Richie

2010_TL

Richie makes great quality parts and has the best customer service. He's a perfectionist when it comes to this stuff, definitely worth the money. I've been working with him to develop some more parts for our 4Gs.

I'll definitely be making a deposit within the next couple weeks for this. I'm leaning towards the HFPDs.

SSGHutch

I'm definitely interested in HFPCDs.

FallenTSX

curious...how will this effect CA Emissions?

-DeL

jnc2000

Count me in for a set of HFC

Just sent my deposit Richie

Richie v6

The PCDs will fail for sure, but somehow people are getting around this. Almost all aftermarket cats are not CA approved. That being said I not sure if the inspector will be able to tell just by looking.

Thanks for the support. 3 deposits already keep em coming guys.

EL19

iTrader: (4)

Just to clear some things up for Richie. I made 240whp with just cold air intake, 260whp with cold air intake and RV6 long tube Jpipe and 280whp with Cold air intake, RV6 long tube jpipe and rv6 pre cat deletes. These are great quality products and will be sure to make the TL run even better than my Accord is.

krazyfiend

+1

Just threw down for a set of PCD's... My long j-pipe on the '10 Accord coupe is getting lonely.

Hope to see more folks signing on board!

Big thanks to Richie for his R&D and to Lance for the proto/beta testing.

SSGHutch

I'm interested in the difficulty of installation of the hfpc's, It looks rather difficult to get at them.

Richie v6

You just have to go slow and take your time. I believe there is more room in the newer engine bays. Maybe Lance can chime in.

krazyfiend

There's a good post of Lance's over on DA or M8G I believe, detailing his time w/ the install..

honestly, I bookmarked (on my home pc) a few threads here @ AZ, where folks were discussing PCD installs on 3g TL's... although tedious, slow , steady and thinking through steps a couple of times before 'doing' will pay dividends.

I believe being aware/cardboard'ing up the backside of the radiator being crucial. It's a tight fit in there, for sure--but w/ the right tools on hand and maybe a second pair of hands/some flexibility on your own part (or the person installing)...it shouldn't be that bad.

EL19

iTrader: (4)

On a scale from one to ten, with ten being the hardest. I would have to say this was a 4 or 5. About as difficult as doing a brake job.

Rich is right the newer engine bays do have more room in them and unlike many of the 3G TL guys, I was able to pull both of my cats through the top. Makes life REAL easy. You will definitely want to PB blast any bolts that have been exposed to the elements and make sure you use the correct socket not to strip the bolts. You also want to make sure you remove the strut bar and the clam shell heat shields from the PCDs, this makes pulling them through the top that much easier. And you will need to remove the passender side radiator fan which comes out with ease by removing four bolts. Tape some cardboard to the radiator so you do not puncture it when removing and reinstalling the precats/precat deletes. The Precats also are bolted to the chassis of the car. With Rich's new design, the new pre cat deletes can be bolted to the chassis as well. He really outdid himself with these.

The install took me and my buddy about 3-4 hours to do. If we had to do it again, which I'm sure we will. It would probably take us an hour.

And like krazyfiend said, if you take time to read through the detailed install process the 3G guys created. You wont have any issues.

2010_TL

Would this void the engine warranty or exhaust warranty?

stillhere153

iTrader: (1)

^ neither, you will have a warranty through rich for the pcd so your covered in that end, and ur stock cats are covered for 100k miles, as far as ur engine, totally unrelated

BLACKURA_NY

iTrader: (6)

jeez. those PCD's made like 20whp/20wtq on my type-s...

and ya know what, they didnt make the engine too much louder... the exhaust smell was pretty evident, but hell... i LOVE the smell of exhaust in the morning

looking forward to this!

EL19

iTrader: (4)

They provided the same gains for my accord. So did the long tube jpipe. 40whp/40wtq from two mods on stock exhaust = no brainer lol

Attribute

This is certainly great news!!!

A little bittersweet I must admit though...

Any hope of us 3Gers getting a stab at some RV6 HFPCs? I know it was a thought once upon a time

Richie v6

They will be coming I just haven't had time to post them.

jnc2000

I just checked... looks like 6 people put deposits down. Common guys I really want to see this product come to market!

omgthedonny

I also am interested where do I sign

Richie v6

http://rv6-performance.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=86

erick3

don't you think there'll be clearance issues with the hfpcds? as always, great work richie!

Richie v6

I tested my plastic rapid prototypes with some high flow cores. I will double check before shipping.

krazyfiend

11 slots left... Thanks to the other 8 people so far

krazyfiend

10 slots now..big thanks to Mark @ Throwdown Perf =)

invsblduck

+1 for the 3G/7G HFPCs. Please.

This money is just burning a hole in my pocket.

invsblduck

Problem solved, deposit paid!
Thanks Richie.

krazyfiend

8 more pre-order slots open.... I'm pretty sure the Accord folks are taking up most of the slots, lol. I thought Acura owners had $ to burn w/ all the premium petrol sippin' they do;-) jk jk

I'm sure some more pre-orders will be checked off as returns start rolling in for folks...just glad the offering is even on the table from Richie.

Time to find some Ridgeline forums to tout this on...

jnc2000

Way ahead of you.... Ridgeline folks complain there is no aftermarket support for MODs; but when the come available nobody is willing to step up.

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/f...ad.php?t=37738

Good luck convincing anyone on that forum....

krazyfiend

Sheesh, tough crowd/convincing over there...my hat's off to you for the effort--it looks like a few people understand that rationality/costs/benefit of the offering though.. I'm surprised though, I would figure some RL enthusiasts would be all over it...

jnc2000

When performance mods amount to "sprint boosters"... there's little hope for intake, exhaust (precats, j-ipe, high flow piping), let alone IM, TB, heads, etc.... Enough of that though. Let's keep this going. I can't wait to put the HFC on my SH-AWD

senile32nd

is a pcd and jpipe gonna have too little backpressure?

krazyfiend

7 left.. another Accord coupe on board.

Mr Marco

$549 + installation = (+20whp)

SAVE YOUR MONEY

krazyfiend

You're more than entitled to your opinion...it's what makes forums/the internet so great =)


That's if you go with the HFPCD's ...gotta pay to play...

and this is not a bad DIY...if you can install a j-pipe or do a transmission change or oil change...one would have the ability to do this considering all the instructions laid out by the 3rd gen HFPCD/PCD folks on here...

As much as I trust my tuning shop...I'll be doing this install w/ a friend like I have with everything outside of my UR Pulley and suspension\alignment

W/ DIY labor.. 3-4 hrs if first time, probably goes down to 1.5-2 hrs if you work with someone who has done them before.

PCDs $17.45 each 1whp gain
HFPCD $27.45 each 1whp gain (nice to even have the option....have you looked at what stock Pre-Cats from Acura run? for those who reside in emission testing/inspection (visual wise) states?)

Mr Marco

No matter how much money you throw at your Honda, it will never be an M3. As far as I know, you can't fit an S54B32 engine under the hood of a Accord/TL.
If you wanted a faster car, you should have bought it in the first place.

krazyfiend

Good grief. You basically wrote off all people who put together 'sleeper' cars, which I'm not trying to do with my heavy Accord (simply make it function like it can breath and operate correctly rather than inhaling and exhaling out of a straw).

Did I say I wanted to make my Accord into a M3 or equivalent? Then why buy a M3? (and one would assume tune/chip it or add mod's to it) Couldn't afford the Ferrari or Aston? Your logic has no end to it. BMW's spend most of their lives in the indy mechanic or stealers garage anyway, yeah...they're the Ultimate Driving Machine alright, when they work properly. This coming from someone who owned a E30 and E36 M3 and has a MB 190e w/ a c36 transplant and 5-speed getrag in it--is it a practical car? No. That's why it's garage queen for weekends.

335i and tune it w/ billy boat and AMS warez... no thanks, break down city. M3 ... RWD fun in ice and snow for a DD and the associated maintenance costs...no thanks. G37, seems like everyone has one around my local area (a kept wife type car)... IS-F ...if I wanted a bone rattling ride that nearly gives you a hernia...I'll pass. S5 with the fun Audi electronics issues galore and associated costs...I'll pass (although I love the aesthetics).

Modding and making an Accord unique...not the most common thing u see. You get a FWD car w/ those handling attributes for bad weather, able to attain 29 MPG on 87 test and a very nice residual as you find with Honda/Accord. It's never hard to sell one off-- With an M3, most reasonable people would pass knowing the original owner...well, prob ran the shit out of it because why else would they opt for a tuner car, second hand purchasing a tuner car is a niche market and sometimes people make off well, other times they lose their ass when selling one off. A few hours with my car, it's back to stock form like it was from the factory.

The Honda is the DD for myself. Considering there are no 'tune/chip' options (which negates any need to look at turbo or SC) for it and the exhaust is known and proved to be a major choke point on the car... well it's pretty evident why I champion behind Richies products. It looks like he and and the ATLP folks have produced proven products time and time again for the Acura\Honda guys...not sure why you are against this mod or others so much.

I can basically gain 40hp/40tq for 750$ (long j-pipe + PCDs)...if the option was offered at the factory, I'm sure nearly anyone opt'ing for the V6 would have jumped at it. But due to Nader, DOT and state emission laws...Cat's are sort of a must have thing if producing a car for all 50-states.

I'm not going to veer Richie's feeler thread OT further than I have. To each, their own and clearly your mind has one way of looking at it.

Mr Marco

You lost me at "did I say..."
I'm sure that there are many things that could be improved on the 4G TL/Accord from the intake to the exhaust, but it's a HONDA.
Gotta run, I have to return some videotapes.

prepreludesh

The price of these hfc's for the output increase equal a good deal to me. I've always gone by the creed that every hp increase should cost about $100. It's not always true, but if you stick by this motto, then you'll never be disappointed with your upgrades.


You know mr Marco, I have seen you be the king of douches on this forum and I don't really care what you think, but this above statement is so ignorant, it's as if you completely disregard the entire aftermarket movement since the days of rat-rods to muscle cars to the sport compact movement of the present.

People buy the cars they like and can afford and live at their means and when they have extra money, they decide to buy things to improve their cars. You don't go get a new wife every time she needs a haircut.

So stop trying to make asinine comments to get feedback, be it good or bad, because everyone already views you as a troll.