Egr port recall?
03-14-2009, 02:27 PM
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Egr port recall?
Sorry if this is a repost but i read in a thread some where about 1999 Tl's having a recall on a egr port part. I searched and searched the net and here but could not really dig much up. My question is I have a 1999 Tl do i qualify for it, what exactly is this recall? Again sorry if this is a repost but I search and only saw it mentioned but not much info on the actual explanation of it.
03-14-2009, 02:30 PM
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03-14-2009, 04:16 PM
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03-14-2009, 05:21 PM
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call acura's customer care 1-800-382-2238 x5 have your VIN handy
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
03-14-2009, 05:25 PM
#5
there may have been extensions to the VIN numbers involved, so a new recall letter would show for that
Acura.com account should have detailed info on everything about your car- its set up by your vin-
Everyone needs to register on both systems so you are notified if future recalls and can learn about your cars past
Plus store the radio and nav codes on there free- in secure account
Acura.com account should have detailed info on everything about your car- its set up by your vin-
Everyone needs to register on both systems so you are notified if future recalls and can learn about your cars past
Plus store the radio and nav codes on there free- in secure account
03-14-2009, 10:03 PM
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I was told by the dealership that I could bring my 99 in for the EGR port cleaning. I mentioned on the phone about the recall and asked if mine was covered. They said yea. Then! when I went to the garage they told me I was past the time limit, I think it was 7 years and then proceeded to tell me that they would do the EGR port cleaning etc. for only $557.00. I was not too happy especially when they told me it was covered under warranty
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
03-15-2009, 10:57 AM
#7
call acura 1-800-382-2238x5 and ask them if its a time limited `warranty` or a RECALL which has no time limit
Service writers get things wrong from time to time
Service writers get things wrong from time to time
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03-15-2009, 06:19 PM
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I was told by the dealership that I could bring my 99 in for the EGR port cleaning. I mentioned on the phone about the recall and asked if mine was covered. They said yea. Then! when I went to the garage they told me I was past the time limit, I think it was 7 years and then proceeded to tell me that they would do the EGR port cleaning etc. for only $557.00. I was not too happy especially when they told me it was covered under warranty
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
03-16-2009, 02:28 PM
#9
I called the # and they said it was done back on 2002 and was for egr interlock. I dont remember it being done cause it was so long ago but a well. It doesnt sound like the same service im talking about but the guy on the phone listed the 3 recalls and said I have had them all serviced.
03-16-2009, 06:07 PM
#10
they drilled out the 1 hole slightly (8mm) and installed smooth metal tube to reduce the clogging. Acura only pays for it once as you found out
NEVER trust things said by service writers on the phone, they cant know everything and if the VIN isnt run right then- they dont know the cars history
call the 800 and get info in advance- or go in person to the dealer and the service manager will happily look it up on the computer
NEVER trust things said by service writers on the phone, they cant know everything and if the VIN isnt run right then- they dont know the cars history
call the 800 and get info in advance- or go in person to the dealer and the service manager will happily look it up on the computer
03-16-2009, 06:08 PM
#11
the acura method to do it is in the egr-thermoblock install diy iirc
Kris- didnt you post that or have a link?
Kris- didnt you post that or have a link?
04-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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04-13-2009, 10:34 AM
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Another reason 87 octane is NOT for the TL
04-13-2009, 11:32 AM
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04-13-2009, 09:38 PM
#16
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wow wow wow $557 for EGR port, dam no wonder why its the Acura dealer, I was glad when I had done my EGR port on my 99 V6 accord by my self with 2 hours of time and $87 for part.
04-13-2009, 10:29 PM
#17
this is simply CLEANING of the egr port(s) inside the intake manifold, and the intake manifold itself-runners, is cleaned in the solvent tank
NOT replacement of the egr valve normally unless they are really sticking it to you
Shop labor is probably 2-3+ hours at $100-$125 per hour....
2 hours DIY and 20 bucks of carb cleaner for those without a solvent tank~
Its the time to install a thermo spacer if thats in the plans- it goes in between the engine and intake manifold you have just removed!
NOT replacement of the egr valve normally unless they are really sticking it to you
Shop labor is probably 2-3+ hours at $100-$125 per hour....
2 hours DIY and 20 bucks of carb cleaner for those without a solvent tank~
Its the time to install a thermo spacer if thats in the plans- it goes in between the engine and intake manifold you have just removed!
06-25-2009, 02:36 PM
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DIY clean EGR
I was told by the dealership that I could bring my 99 in for the EGR port cleaning. I mentioned on the phone about the recall and asked if mine was covered. They said yea. Then! when I went to the garage they told me I was past the time limit, I think it was 7 years and then proceeded to tell me that they would do the EGR port cleaning etc. for only $557.00. I was not too happy especially when they told me it was covered under warranty
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
can you send me the pdf file as well to als@vif.com
thanks
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10-13-2009, 02:40 PM
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I would like the file too please..... deegostania@gmail.com. I know this post is old; but maybe someone has the info still. Thanks.
10-13-2009, 04:31 PM
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I would like the file too please..... deegostania@gmail.com. I know this post is old; but maybe someone has the info still. Thanks.
10-13-2009, 06:19 PM
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email me at steveluke@bellsouth.net and I"ll reply with it. It's a pdf file. I'll keep it on my Blackberry
November 2001
Warranty Extension: EGR System Clogging
Dear 3.2TL Owner:
In some areas of the U.S., certain basic chemical
properties of gasoline (regardless of brand) may cause
the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) port in the engine’s
intake manifold to become clogged or the EGR valve to
fail. If this happens, the Malfunction Indicator Lamp
(Check Engine light) will come on.
Warranty Extension Details
To provide protection in the unlikely event your vehicle
should experience this problem, the warranty coverage for
EGR system clogging is being extended to 8 years or
80,000 miles, whichever comes first. If the Check Engine
light should come on, take your vehicle to any Acura
dealer. If they determine that the cause is clogging of the
EGR system, they will repair it at no charge for parts or
labor.
What to do if you feel this notice is in error
Our records show that you are the current owner of a 1999
3.2TL. If this is not the case, or the name/address
information is incorrect, please fill out and return the
enclosed, postage-paid Information Change Card. We will
then update our records.
If you have questions
If you have questions about this notice, or feel you may
have paid for a repair that is covered by this warranty
extension, please call Acura Client Services at (800) 382-
2238.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Acura Automobile Division
November 2001
Warranty Extension: EGR System Clogging
Dear 3.2TL Owner:
In some areas of the U.S., certain basic chemical
properties of gasoline (regardless of brand) may cause
the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) port in the engine’s
intake manifold to become clogged or the EGR valve to
fail. If this happens, the Malfunction Indicator Lamp
(Check Engine light) will come on.
Warranty Extension Details
To provide protection in the unlikely event your vehicle
should experience this problem, the warranty coverage for
EGR system clogging is being extended to 8 years or
80,000 miles, whichever comes first. If the Check Engine
light should come on, take your vehicle to any Acura
dealer. If they determine that the cause is clogging of the
EGR system, they will repair it at no charge for parts or
labor.
What to do if you feel this notice is in error
Our records show that you are the current owner of a 1999
3.2TL. If this is not the case, or the name/address
information is incorrect, please fill out and return the
enclosed, postage-paid Information Change Card. We will
then update our records.
If you have questions
If you have questions about this notice, or feel you may
have paid for a repair that is covered by this warranty
extension, please call Acura Client Services at (800) 382-
2238.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Acura Automobile Division
Last edited by Luke7; 10-13-2009 at 06:22 PM.
10-13-2009, 08:01 PM
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just read the complete egr-thermoblock diy-
in it is the official publication from acura as well as all the tech tips from ziners who learned as they went with plenty of pics
Simple job: pull intake off- clean- rinse- DRY FULLY- install- correct torque is critical on those bolts or it will have a bad air leak
in it is the official publication from acura as well as all the tech tips from ziners who learned as they went with plenty of pics
Simple job: pull intake off- clean- rinse- DRY FULLY- install- correct torque is critical on those bolts or it will have a bad air leak
12-31-2009, 08:06 AM
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A friend of mine has the code for the EGR valve... just wondering if cleaning it might get rid of it and also if there's a good DIY out there for cleaning? I saw where the valve actually sits (pass side by back of engine and screwed down with 2 screws) so is it a simple removal of it and spraying some carb cleaner down there or should the whole intake come off? Thanks
12-31-2009, 08:19 AM
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A friend of mine has the code for the EGR valve... just wondering if cleaning it might get rid of it and also if there's a good DIY out there for cleaning? I saw where the valve actually sits (pass side by back of engine and screwed down with 2 screws) so is it a simple removal of it and spraying some carb cleaner down there or should the whole intake come off? Thanks
12-31-2009, 08:45 AM
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"New" Official 2nd Gen TL DIY Thread
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/new-official-2nd-gen-tl-diy-thread-706083/
Thermoblock DIY/EGR cleaning DIY (99)
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/diy-thermoblok-spacers-install-egr-cleaning-615644/
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/new-official-2nd-gen-tl-diy-thread-706083/
Thermoblock DIY/EGR cleaning DIY (99)
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/diy-thermoblok-spacers-install-egr-cleaning-615644/
12-31-2009, 09:00 AM
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"New" Official 2nd Gen TL DIY Thread
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=706083
Thermoblock DIY/EGR cleaning DIY (99)
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615644
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=706083
Thermoblock DIY/EGR cleaning DIY (99)
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615644
12-31-2009, 11:43 AM
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call acura's customer care 1-800-382-2238 x5 have your VIN handy
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
12-31-2009, 12:38 PM
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call acura's customer care 1-800-382-2238 x5 have your VIN handy
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
They can tell you if its already been done or needs to go in for this
You get a free egr port cleaning and they install a smooth tube in the 1 egr passage on 99s (later years have 6) to help- but it doesnt much.
Smog equip causes the problem!
Expect a TL to need the egr ports cleaned every 75k miles based on member experience
If you want to install a thermoblock spacer this is the time- they take off the intake manifold to clean it and can install your new extra parts (have to change a few studs) for few dollars
Also ask if the ignition switch was replaced under recall
Even if it was- sudden loss of electrical power is often the switch, some have gone thru 3 or more - they are less than 50 dollars ..easy DIY
here is the acura computer system- register on it and check `recall` section
should tell you whats open or fixed on your car
http://owners.acura.com/registration...erstepone.aspx
What does a thermalblock spacer do?
12-31-2009, 01:23 PM
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A thermo spacer puts space between your throttle body and intake manifold and another between the intake manifold and the intake manifold on the engine. What it does is allows the throttle body and intake connections to be cooler. Cooler parts are better than hotter parts.
As for performance, it gives a nice level of low end torque and an extra 8 hp!
Its one of the best mods you could do on your car and its easy and if you do it the kit is $100 and shipping is $6. And while your doing the thermo block its best to clean the egr port.
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As for performance, it gives a nice level of low end torque and an extra 8 hp!
Its one of the best mods you could do on your car and its easy and if you do it the kit is $100 and shipping is $6. And while your doing the thermo block its best to clean the egr port.
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12-31-2009, 01:24 PM
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see www.outlawengineering for tech details- makes a heat seperator between the hot engine steel and the cold aluminum intake manifold- helps keep power when hot conditions
If you ever watched Pinks on Speed TV- they throw bags of ice on the intake between runs...this is like a permanent bag of ice!
If you ever watched Pinks on Speed TV- they throw bags of ice on the intake between runs...this is like a permanent bag of ice!
12-31-2009, 01:26 PM
#34
Yeu - I dont know about any change to the recall instructions- (but dont work for a dealer)
Drill out the single port on 99's to 8mm and insert smooth tubular liner to help cut down on abilty of crud to grab on and stick
Drilling was to make room for the inserted tube
Drill out the single port on 99's to 8mm and insert smooth tubular liner to help cut down on abilty of crud to grab on and stick
Drilling was to make room for the inserted tube
12-31-2009, 01:35 PM
#35
thats close xlost-
its about a heat blocking- a non heat transferring material placed between two metals that are prone to picking up heat from surrounding or contacting object~ (aluminum and glass are like that)
the TB has radiator lines run to it to prevent icing of the TB plate, those are hot and raise the inlet air temp-
heat rising from the middle of our V6 into the manifold is really bad saturation too
how important is inlet air temp?? there is a sendor with direct input to ECU engine controller- air temp and resulting density are all important to fuel injection calculations
Dont expect to feel that 8hp at the wheels, but the torque curve moves slightly left- lower rpm more torque for accelleration improvement
The payoff is sea level 59 degree performance when its 100 plus and you are going uphill at 7000 feet...as strong as at home
its about a heat blocking- a non heat transferring material placed between two metals that are prone to picking up heat from surrounding or contacting object~ (aluminum and glass are like that)
the TB has radiator lines run to it to prevent icing of the TB plate, those are hot and raise the inlet air temp-
heat rising from the middle of our V6 into the manifold is really bad saturation too
how important is inlet air temp?? there is a sendor with direct input to ECU engine controller- air temp and resulting density are all important to fuel injection calculations
Dont expect to feel that 8hp at the wheels, but the torque curve moves slightly left- lower rpm more torque for accelleration improvement
The payoff is sea level 59 degree performance when its 100 plus and you are going uphill at 7000 feet...as strong as at home
Last edited by 01tl4tl; 12-31-2009 at 01:37 PM.
06-30-2010, 08:44 PM
#37
www.outlawengineering.com direct
or Excelerate or MrHeelToe our performance parts vendors
package comes with all you need to install the unit- new longer bolts where req, new gaskets etc
Buy extra carb cleaner for the EGR ports
or Excelerate or MrHeelToe our performance parts vendors
package comes with all you need to install the unit- new longer bolts where req, new gaskets etc
Buy extra carb cleaner for the EGR ports
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I was told by the dealership that I could bring my 99 in for the EGR port cleaning. I mentioned on the phone about the recall and asked if mine was covered. They said yea. Then! when I went to the garage they told me I was past the time limit, I think it was 7 years and then proceeded to tell me that they would do the EGR port cleaning etc. for only $557.00. I was not too happy especially when they told me it was covered under warranty
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
Went to an auto parts store and bought 2 cans of throttle body cleaner and did it myself for about $11.00 and 2 hours of my time. I have a PDF file of the instructions from Acura explaining how to do the cleaning for anyone that wants it. I have not been back to APPLE TREE Acura since. What a rip off that would have been. 2hour job at best and no parts involved/well except for the stem they install that's suppose to solve the problem. Yea, right! I'm going to pay them over $500.00 for 2 hours of shop time. NOT!
Thank you
05-04-2011, 05:22 PM
#39
see the diy section,,3rd item down the master list as you enter gen2 forum
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=706083
you dont need to drill out the port and install the barrel sleeve
it doesnt fix the problem
take manifold off, run carb clean thru all ports and the passageway and poke holes out with wire coat hanger
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=706083
you dont need to drill out the port and install the barrel sleeve
it doesnt fix the problem
take manifold off, run carb clean thru all ports and the passageway and poke holes out with wire coat hanger
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