Car still won't start.

Old 01-12-2019, 11:36 AM
  #1  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car still won't start.

Alright ladies and gents, I'm on my last nerve and I'm beyond ticked off.

-Tried jump starting the car, nothing. I do know the battery is weak though.

-Replaced the starter, car still won't start.
-Replaced the clutch switch, still won't start.

What should I be looking at next?
Old 01-12-2019, 01:14 PM
  #2  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also noticed that my battery is extremely drained. Even when I was jump starting it, it would not start. When I went to go roll my windows up, the windows did not want to move.

-So I'm thinking either it's a bad battery or possible alternator?
Old 01-12-2019, 01:16 PM
  #3  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,857
Received 8,568 Likes on 6,621 Posts
Replace battery
The following users liked this post:
kurtatx (01-12-2019)
Old 01-12-2019, 02:52 PM
  #4  
Azine Jabroni
 
kurtatx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 9,156
Received 2,158 Likes on 1,386 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
Replace battery
Put keys in ignition
Old 01-12-2019, 03:11 PM
  #5  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by kurtatx
Put keys in ignition
​​​​​​

Can you not post idiotic comments like this? thank you.
Old 01-12-2019, 03:11 PM
  #6  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
Replace battery


The only thing that worries me is that I've been hearing a growling noise coming near the alternator....

Old 01-12-2019, 05:54 PM
  #7  
Instructor
 
06.UA6SD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Age: 29
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Replace battery and check your fuses
Old 01-12-2019, 06:06 PM
  #8  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06.UA6SD
Replace battery and check your fuses

Alright, thank you!
Old 01-12-2019, 06:10 PM
  #9  
Instructor
 
06.UA6SD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Age: 29
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by jwoods4290
Alright, thank you!
make sure to test both under the hood and the inside fuses, but if it’s a fuse that’s keeping your car from turning on, it will most likely be a fuse from the engine bay
Old 01-13-2019, 07:20 PM
  #10  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06.UA6SD
Replace battery and check your fuses
Replaced the battery, car still won't crank.
Old 01-13-2019, 07:23 PM
  #11  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Does it crank?

If so, your TB may have broken, if not, it's immobilizer or ECU/ignition related.
Old 01-13-2019, 07:24 PM
  #12  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Originally Posted by jwoods4290
Replaced the battery, car still won't crank.

Gotcha!
Old 01-13-2019, 07:39 PM
  #13  
Instructor
 
06.UA6SD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Age: 29
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Blown Fuses or relays
Old 01-14-2019, 10:33 AM
  #14  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm not sure if this is helpful, but I decided to go out and take some pictures of what I can see.







Old 01-14-2019, 10:35 AM
  #15  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
also to keep in mind, can't start the car so the car just has the ignition key on at this point.
Old 01-14-2019, 10:46 AM
  #16  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
No crank (sound) upon trying to start means TB is good.

BTW, TB is further back and behind a cover, you showed us the drive belts.

IDK, get freaky with the electrical.
Old 01-14-2019, 10:51 AM
  #17  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
It's ok, I know you're in a crisis with your car and not very knowledgeable. Umm...

Based upon what we know, you're looking at something electrical.

:idea: Hey! Check your starter fuse, I used to pull mine as a kill switch. Also, see if it's getting power. Put an amp meter on the battery, then have someone turn the key to start and see if the voltage drops or not.
Old 01-14-2019, 11:04 AM
  #18  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,857
Received 8,568 Likes on 6,621 Posts
Originally Posted by jwoods4290
The only thing that worries me is that I've been hearing a growling noise coming near the alternator....
Yeah... give us all the information so we don't keep guessing on how to help you fix it


Still likely is battery, how old is it?
Old 01-14-2019, 11:06 AM
  #19  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Are your interior lights dim? Can you post a video?
Old 01-14-2019, 11:07 AM
  #20  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
Yeah... give us all the information so we don't keep guessing on how to help you fix it


Still likely is battery, how old is it?
Just replaced it last night. still doesn't crank.
Old 01-14-2019, 11:08 AM
  #21  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,857
Received 8,568 Likes on 6,621 Posts
Do you have a multimeter? What voltage is the battery reading across the posts?
Old 01-14-2019, 11:08 AM
  #22  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
Are your interior lights dim? Can you post a video?

Going to check this now.
Old 01-14-2019, 11:12 AM
  #23  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
Are your interior lights dim? Can you post a video?
Interior lights do seem dim.
Old 01-14-2019, 11:12 AM
  #24  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Old 01-14-2019, 11:16 AM
  #25  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,857
Received 8,568 Likes on 6,621 Posts
Well here's the thing .. if you continue to try and crank the car, even on a new battery and it never turns over, then you're going to deplete the battery and the lights could be dim.

Unfortunately, "lights dim' is only a symptom but the root cause can still be something else.
Old 01-14-2019, 11:25 AM
  #26  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Originally Posted by jwoods4290
Interior lights do seem dim.
Well, now we need to figure out why. You probably killed your battery when trying to start it.


Hook it up to a charger, see if you can get a charge on it. Atleast we could then rule out the battery.


Something is definitely going on here.


Charge your battery, ECU may not like it, but power your starter via jump wire for just a second to see if it turns over, given this is kinda risky. I don't even think I should recommend it.

Have you searched YouTube for no crank/no start diagnosis? It'll give you an idea on how to inspect for a fault in the electrical system.

Put an amp meter on your battery and see if it reads around 12v, or low like 2-3v, if it's low, its dead too. If not, something is depleteing it between your battery and electrical system.

After you can get it to 12v, if you can, start checking at varois 12v wires and harmesses to make sure it isn't being depleted deeper into the wiring on the car.
Old 01-14-2019, 12:47 PM
  #27  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The only thing I can put my finger on at this point is either the alternator or a timing issue....

The only thing I can say about this, i did hear whining and growling noises before the car wouldn't completely start...

I am working at the moment (I work from home) so I'm limited to what I can do at the moment.

Keep in mind, I replaced the battery, starter, clutch switch. Still no start.
Old 01-14-2019, 12:48 PM
  #28  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also to keep in mind, I had to keep pumping the clutch for the car to crank. Now, it won't crank despite still pumping the clutch.
Old 01-14-2019, 03:08 PM
  #29  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could a flimsy positive battery cable cause a no crank ?

I know a year or two ago, I had to do some ghetto wiring where I wired electric tape to it. I did notice that some of the cable is now exposed...
Old 01-14-2019, 03:21 PM
  #30  
Burning Brakes
 
90foxnotch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: OHIO
Age: 35
Posts: 977
Received 151 Likes on 127 Posts
All of the fuses checked out fine? Best bet would be to take it to a shop, they'll put it on a battery charger while cranking it over and further diagnose. The car will still start with a bad alternator it will just turn off when the battery is dead.
Old 01-14-2019, 03:33 PM
  #31  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could it be possible of a bad ignition switch?
Old 01-14-2019, 03:42 PM
  #32  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,857
Received 8,568 Likes on 6,621 Posts
Originally Posted by jwoods4290
Could a flimsy positive battery cable cause a no crank ?

I know a year or two ago, I had to do some ghetto wiring where I wired electric tape to it. I did notice that some of the cable is now exposed...



1000% a possibility...


If the clamp isn't providing a solid connection, you won't be getting all the electron juices to the proper places..
Old 01-15-2019, 07:56 AM
  #33  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi



1000% a possibility...


If the clamp isn't providing a solid connection, you won't be getting all the electron juices to the proper places..
I have someone coming to look at it today for overall purposes, see what I need what it could use, etc. I'll give you guys a heads up on what it was or what it is if it get's to that point.
Old 01-15-2019, 08:15 AM
  #34  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Thanks! Keep us posted, I'm dying to find out what it was!
Old 01-15-2019, 03:11 PM
  #35  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
Thanks! Keep us posted, I'm dying to find out what it was!

Starter was bad, replaced it, replaced positive battery cable, cleaned negative cable, Still won't crank...
Good readings from the battery and it's cables.

What kind of switch is this?

Old 01-15-2019, 03:13 PM
  #36  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts


Old 01-15-2019, 03:16 PM
  #37  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh and the fuses are good too.
Old 01-16-2019, 01:33 PM
  #38  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Replaced the clutch safety switch, car started, drove to autozone, cant start the car again..
Old 01-16-2019, 03:24 PM
  #39  
Null and proud of it
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Metairie, LA
Age: 27
Posts: 10,375
Received 898 Likes on 788 Posts
Hmmm.... We'll you're getting closer. Stange, though. How you seem to be losing connections in your electrical system....
Old 01-16-2019, 07:59 PM
  #40  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
jwoods4290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Age: 34
Posts: 92
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't have a clue what to do next. Connections are good, starter connections are good, got a reading from the clutch switch.. i dont know what to do...

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Car still won't start.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 PM.