Yumcha

It's all on preference...I'd almost never would've considered the IS to be in the same class as the TL to be honest.

So, to talk about racing these two cars? Makes zero sense to me. I may as well get into my FX and be all hyped about racing an MDX then.

i_love_cars

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Stock to stock this argument about IS350 is irrelevant - we know a stock TL is not quick in comparison to an IS350.

To assert that a new 5.0 Mustang is not a threat is pure ignorance and spouting off like an idiot. IS350 would get destroyed by a 5.0 from a dig, lol.

For the record, my TL and my 135i would both crush any IS350. Easily.

This thread is mildly entertaining.

IS350King

Theres not much difference in the acceleration between Mustang 5.0 and IS350 which easily does just a little over 4.5 sec 0-60. Even your modded TLS 6mt will have difficulty getting that unless you are on DR with good driving. Seriously Mustang is not big threat. The GTR certainly is.

anx1300c

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The sad thing is, he's not trolling with this. He apparently beat a "5.0" before and now genuinely believes his car is faster. Rather it was a V6 with 5.0 emblems or a genuine 5.0 whose driver was either in the midst of a stroke or totally clueless to the fact the dude in the cute little Lexus next to him was actually trying to race, and not just late for his manicure appointment, I'm not sure.

Sometimes I wish I lived on Fantasy Island myself. Even if the 5.0 blows the tires off and you can manage to beat him to 60, that doesn't make your car faster.

Majofo

You do realize that not one person he thinks he's racing is actually racing.

EvilVirus

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Stang was like, "Gas prices are climbing again and this little micro machine here wants to race......hmm..........better not waste my gas on it."

Yumcha

He is. It's called putting both your hands onto the steering wheel. Closing your eyes. And then going vroom-vroom-screeech-vroom loudly.

1black_seven

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How can you say a little? Lexus own fact sheet said the type-f does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds.

IS350King

They ran at full throttle.


That's not a fact sheet. That is advertising marketing number not an actual 0-60 number. Lexus didn't want to put down 4.8 or 4.9 sec in there because it makes IS-F look bad. 5.6 sec can be attained in an IS350 if you take easy on the gas, with traction control ON. Heck, I can make it run 7 seconds. All I have to do is control the throttle. I have made 4.7 sec's on an 2008 IS350 numerous times before, and that is with ONLY 1000 rpm in 40F weather. I mean, is 1000 rpm even a braketorque launch? It's nothing! Just imagine if I launched at 1500 rpm or 2000! it would have seen 4.5 sec. There are other IS350 owners who have gone 4.6 sec on complete stock, with no weight reduction, driver owner's manual, floor mats, spare all intact. The north of 4.x seconds is very very common for the IS350. 0-100 mph in under 12.7 sec. Quarter mile at 13.2xx on a good day.

Sonnick

13.2 on a good day? More like a PERFECT day. Fastest I've seen an IS350 go was 13.5 I believe. This was a couple years ago of course. I'd love to run you on a track. And then watch you run a 5.0 next.

1black_seven

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So wtf is the point of selling the ISF...?

I wish acura made redundant sport cars.

1black_seven

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Did some research, R&T ran it 4.9 seconds stock. Which was the fastest tested time.
Source

Fastest known 0-60 on 350 forums is user juice14g who ran 4.5 with light modification.

Most folks are putting down 4.9 without much effort.

Seems to be a pretty decent car.

Majofo

IS350King

Nah... you didn't look hard enough. If you dig out old discussions in my.is and clublexus you'll see some folks hitting 13.22x and 13.3x ET completely stock down to the filter on a nice day, not a perfect day, meaning temp around 40~ 32F and descent DA. On a perfect day it should see 13.0~ 13.1x. There's another guy ToothDoc from clublexus who tried to reach 13 sec FLAT on his stock IS350 but with lighter set of wheels and tires but didn't get the chance to do it cause he just upgraded to IS-F. 13.5 sec is typical on car magazines where the altitude is higher with high temp around 75~ 90F. Road&Track still managed 13.5@ 103.6 on a hot freakin day. The humidity was higher than normal too at the time of the test. That's with full tank of gas + world-class heaviest equipment and fat tall guy in the driver seat.


IS-F is for ROLL PULL RACIN' such as:

50~ 100
60~ 120
60~ 150
60~ 170

It's exactly the opposite of STi and Evo's gearing character. The faster you go the tighter the gears get. It shines really good from 100 mph pull to the top end. So if you want to do a lot of highway pulling and want a nice quality and reliability you get an IS-F. It's not good for city light-to-light racing.


Good post.

Lmao. You don't like the fact people supporting me. You just HAVE to be the opposite.

1black_seven

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dont look at me like that.

I was just fact checking.

D's Up

He might be a troll, but he does provide factual information. I'm surprised myself.

Majofo

Opposite of full-retard isn't difficult.

i_love_cars

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are you serious? A 5.0 mustang isn't a threat?

Click here to see a stock 5.0 go 12.65

You are really going to try and say that's not a threat to an IS350, which can't even break into 12's in stock form? And is by all accounts basically a mid 13's car (low 13's on a good day?)

There isn't a stock IS350 on the entire planet that can keep up with a 5.0 Coyote.

Sonnick

A perfect day, where? In the Arctic?

Anything under 40 degrees is a phenomenal day and most certainly negative DA on any track near sea level. I went consistent 106.x traps in 32 degree conditions and my fastest since then is 104.5 in 60 degree conditions. That's a full 2mph, not to mention probably 3-4 tenths faster. Just saying those are GREAT conditions.

runutsooh

I would def have to say the z would take you

VR1

VR1

Sorry, but a IS350 will not beat a 5.0. My friend has one, and I've driven the 5.0 a few times, and unless it's an auto coupled with a clueless driver, you won't win. Maybe if you were in a 335i MSport which does 0-60 in 4.6 you probably could. Only real way to beat a 5.0 is in a circuit/auto x. Dragging one is a terrible idea.

Majofo

IS350 is the fastest car on the planet.

Majofo

I sold my GT-R for one.. after it beat me of course.

anx1300c

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A stock 335i MSport is not beating a 5.0 Coyote either. It would need at least a JB4 and catless down pipes to be in the same league.

D's Up

You're not touching a 5.0 in either of the cars mentioned above. The Lexus would need to spray to be able to keep up and the 335i would need a JB4 tune + some basic bolt-ons.

5.0's are no freaking joke.

5.Bro checking out.

F23A4

Is this the return of 1Sicklexus? ...'cause this may end the same way.

A play along for now though. The 5.0 is easily one of the fastest cars for the money and..in the real world....would take down an IS-F,let alone an IS350. While the IS350 would prevail over any stock TL, a G37 sedan is just as quick.....and the G can't do much versus a 5.0.

D's Up

Case and point, my G vs a stock 5.0. I haven't had the chance to run an IS350 yet, but I'm sure I'd be able to keep up and be neck and neck with one.



EDIT: I'm not sure why it's double posting, Mods can you delete one of the links? When I try to do it it deletes both links instead of just one. Thanks.

VR1

Whenever you see a 5.0 wanting to drag, quickly set up some cones an make it an AutoX. You might win then.

D's Up

5.0's are aggressive in the corners too. Good luck.

Sonnick

The 5.0 is almost as good in the corners as it is in a straight line.

Majofo

Especially with the new IRS..

D's Up

In all seriousness; Is there a better buy than a brand new 5.0 as far the price to performance ratio goes these days?

What do they retail for, a little over $40k or something? I love the car but never actually checked out how much they cost.

anx1300c

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The 5.0 starts at 31k. It's a serious bargain.

D's Up

Holy crap.. I didn't want to get a new car for a while but for that price I'm seriously inclined to look into one now.

Anx you've been talking about replacing the TL for some time now, how come you haven't considered the 5.0? I know you were looking into getting a 335i IIRC.

Majofo

I'd wait for the IRS.. probably a little pricier because demand will be higher, but I'm guessing it will be one wicked ride.

VR1

My friend got his GT Premium (with no options) for 29k. They're discounting them like crazy.
And I don't think they corner very well IMO. You can certainly feel the weight and they just feel very lethargic too me. I've driven the FRS & EVO GSR and all though one is a bit cheaper, and one a bit more expensive, I prefer those 2 waaaaaaaayyyyy more to the 5.0. But I've never driven a 5.0 with a track package.
Certainly depends on your driving style though. I didn't have any fun in the 5.0. Felt like a big gob of mush to me. I prefer cars that are more "tight". Hard to explain, but you get that feeling in the FRS when your throwing it around. I am looking forward to the new 2015 model though. The talk of a IRS + a lighter weight has me excited. The Coyote is one hell of a motor.

D's Up

I see where you're coming from now. FRS/BRZs and Evos certainly are fun to drive. The Toyobaru's remind me a lot of my old S2000 when I drive them. I'm definitely impressed with the FRS's and BRZ's.

Like you said though, everybody has their own set of wants and needs with their specific car. I can respect where you're coming from.

anx1300c

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I live in upstate NY, so 100" of snow each winter kind of kills the 5.0 for me. I did drive one three summers ago and it was fast, but I wasn't in love with it. I don't ever see me owning another American car, aside from maybe a Vette some day as a summer car. And yeah, the 335i is tempting, but I think practicality and sensibility will intervene and steer me toward the g37 when the time comes. As it stands now though, I think I'll be hanging on to the TL for another four years or so. It still looks new after a detail, is quick for what it is, and best of all, is paid for. Hasn't even popped its 100k cherry yet, either.

D's Up

G37's are bleh.