Msnowdon

I don't really like the look for the new RL and really want a new car, the accord is getting old.

Michael

Shoofin

04 TL
Exterior
Length: 189.3 in. Width: 72.2 in.
Height: 56.7 in. Wheel Base: 107.9 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.8 in. Curb Weight: 3575 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.7 in. Front Hip Room: 55.6 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 58.3 in. Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 55.7 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.8 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.8 in. Rear Leg Room: 34.9 in.
Luggage Capacity: 12.5 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 13 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5

03 Accord
Exterior
Length: 189.5 in. Width: 71.5 in.
Height: 57.1 in. Wheel Base: 107.9 in.
Curb Weight: 3384 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.3 in. Front Hip Room: 54.6 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 56.9 in. Rear Head Room: 36.8 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 56.1 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.5 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.6 in. Rear Leg Room: 36.8 in.
Luggage Capacity: 14 cu. ft. Maximum Cargo Capacity: 14 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5

Any questions? :search:

rets

TL is using the same chassis as Accord. This is one of reasons Lex & Infi guys bashing us a lot... I see nothing wrong with this.

-=¤willhaven¤=-

who cares. we go faster

iNteGraz92

and the es uses the same chassis as the camry. only idiots continue to refer to the tl as a souped up accord. it is much more than an accord.

cM3go

you forgot

04 TL
Coolness Factor: 10

03 Accord
Coolness Factor: 4

chlbkl

Accord's front end. :o
TL's styling.

Teh Jatt

03 Coupe Accord 6SPEED will KILL AUTO TL

Road Rage

Doesn't the ES share most if its running gear with the Camry?

xlilbluux

id get the 6spd/navi accord if i had to pay for a car myself, but since i think my parents are helping id end up with the 6spd/navi TL. I'd be happy with either one.

-=¤willhaven¤=-

im talking about the lexus/infiniti guys. AFAIK all the cars in the same class from those companies are slightly slower.

Perziankabob

lexus and toyota were using that same 3.0L engine for how long? in how many of their cars?

i wonder how long they'll go with this new 3.3L engine

Sherlock

and Infiniti has any room to talk with the /G/Z/Murano/FX combo ?? yes.. they are all on the same platform.

And the IS300 being a COROLLA based car, yes, it's true. As is the RAV4

Yes the ES is a Camry/Solara in a lot of respects. Even the same platform in the RX300/330.

Just as the Pilot/Odyssey/MDX is based on the Accord platform as well.

Yes the TL is on the Accord platform, but more modified than the ES to Camry is. Different engine bay and subframe, suspension layout, and others.

Granted "based on the same platform" means it shares some common components, not that it's identical. They can beef up the frame, change suspension parts and engine bay layout, but the specs use a lot of the same stuff.

Aquineas

I happen to own both, an 04 Accord EX V6 and a TL. In answer to the original question, they are nearly identical in size while in the garage. And the EX V6 version offers 95 percent of the car that the TL is. They are equal in performance. The Accord gets slightly better gas mileage. The TL certainly looks better, though. With a couple of exceptions, they have identical features. Sitting in the interior in one makes you feel right at home in the other. Here are the things the TL has that the Accord doesn't. Whether or not those features are worth the $7,400 price difference I paid between the two I will leave as an exercise for each of you individually to take part of:

• VSA
• sport shift
• DVD Audio
• Bluetooth and HFL Link
• larger nav screen
• HID headlights
• Memory seating
• Better warranty
• No MLD on the Accord (it's integrated with the Navigation system)
• Interior Pop noise from driver's head area in door panel (Yes, that's right, the Accord does not have this problem).

The Accord has a couple of minor things too:

• Ability to see instant gas mileage on the trip computer

That's all I can think of off the top fo my head. Let's be honest folks. It really is a "souped-up" accord. But, that's not necessarily a bad thing. As many have said, lots of manufacturers do that, including Lexus. It doesn't take away from the TL one bit, in fact, it was because of how good the Accord is that I even walked into an Acura dealership to begin with.

Many would argue that irrational posturing and attacks on others' intellect because they happen to disagree with you also falls more under the category of idiocy.

1SICKLEX

Dude you are WAY OFF. The IS is a shortned GS 300/430 frame. A quick clue is the corolla is FWD, the IS RWD. One of the reasons the IS costs as much as a TL. It's built like a tank.
The TL is no more modified than an ES 330. The ES is just geared more towards lux and the TL sport.

1SICKLEX

I don't know why some TL owners think their Accord based car is superior to any other platorm based car. Camry/ES Accord/TL Maxima/I35 (previous). I don't think anyone with any sense bashes it until it's time to talk sport. Otherwise all 3 carmakers have platform shared products.
And IMO, I don't find it to luxurious or glamourous that the G35 and new M45 share the 350Z platform and engine. With the G35, its acceptable since it's an entry level sedan and a damn good one. For the M35 we'll see, but luxury=rareness somewhat and a 45k car sharing a stretched 350Z platform and the same engine in every single product of theirs is not a selling point to me.

Tecworld

I really don't think so because I totally outran one at 100mph +

It was 6 speed for sure because it had the red v6 emblem as i was merging onto the freeway behind it. That's the last time I saw it's rear end [=

vtechbrain

The 6 spd accord will beat an auto TL. I'm still looking for someone with a manual accord to see how it will fare agaisnt my manual TL. Any takers???

NightRider

I have an auto Tl and went with a 6MT Accord on the highway from 60-80. THis guy was a good stick driver and we were DEAD even. He may have even been able to take me off the line due to the MT if he didn't spin the tires. The reason? Although Accord has 30 less HP, the coupe weighs less than the TL, and MT almost always weigh less than AT, not to mention MT puts slightly more HP to the wheels. As far as size discussion, they are nearly identical sized interiors. Tl has slightly more width and hip room while Accord has slightly more height and head room both front and back. As far as exterior, my friend has an 03 Accord and I compare it's looks as the "TL's big brother that has overeatin' all his life."

wildchild_8635

Well Ill tell you right now, as far as the auto tl, it's not the car, it;s the driver. I hung nose and nose with a 92 vett at 125 mph. It's just how you drive it. If you can work the sport shift to your advantage, you can get a nice little edge on anyone.