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Air filter replacement 3G Garage #F-129
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The Owner's Manual, page 199, recommends replacement at 15,000 miles if you drive in dusty conditions. Nothing said about normal conditions though, so I would recommend checking it at 15,000 miles. If it is OK, check it periodically and change it when you feel like it looks dirty. Some people say 15,000, some 20,000, some say go by the MID, so it's up to you.
It is easy to check the filter. There are 4 8mm bolts holding it down. When you loosen these, they will not fall out because they have a retainer to prevent that. Before you try to remove the air cleaner housing, there is a cable from the battery with two clips inserted into the housing. Remove these clips first or the housing will not come off. It is a tight fit, but you don't have to remove the hose from the housing to the engine to remove the housing. The following was posted on 26Jul09 and I have moved it to this thread to make sure people will see it and benefit from it. Quote:
The filter lists for $24.31. Here's a picture and a link to the source for the prices. ![]() |
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Should I get K&N air filter instead of OEM air filter for $20.00 more?
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If you live in a dusty area (environmental or construction or both), I would advise against using a K&N since they don't filter as well as the OEM units. Otherwise, the only other thing to consider when going K&N is the fact that it is an oil-wetted filter so expect to be cleaning the throttle body and butterfly a few times a year.
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Road salt considered dusty area?
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I'd say maybe so if you use too much oil. But, if the filter is properly cleaned and re-oiled, there should be nothing to worry about. I had one in my '01 CL-S for 20k+ miles and never a problem. I do concur with the first part of SouthernBoy's statement concerning using the K&N in dusty regions. It is not recommended. |
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I put a K&N in mine, very easy swap. Power is the same but MPG did go up some, 2-4mpg gain sounds about right.
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Ron,
Thanks for always taking the time to provide above and beyond information. This is very helpful. Thanks. |
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thanks for the advice and feedback. BTW where is the dust and pollen filter located?
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http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87494 |
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Do you know if this is the same for previous year Acura's as well (2002?)
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I would say check the filter whenever you change your oil or every other change.
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Guys,
It's always a good idea to check the air filter element out every now and then. Back when I had my Camry, I found that a furry rodent had apparently crawled up my airbox and had chewed up part of the cotton element. Thank goodness I found out and replaced it right away. I never had it happen again but stories on this board about mice chewing through knock sensor wires shows that a little inspection may help protect your TL. dsc888 |
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Honestly,
K&N airfilters don't filter very well in many applications. There are exceptions though. But in most cases, you're better off using a standard paper air filter, they work best for most applications. Always change your airfilter if you see a trend of increasing Silicon in your UOAs, a good service interval for paper airfilters is 2-years/20,000 miles. They really aren't that expensive, about $10-$15 when you buy an aftermarket such as a Fram, Purolator, or Napa. Oh yeah, btw, Fram airfilters are fine. Its just the oil filters that you have to watch out for. Michael |
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®ACURA ServiceNews April 2005 Cold Air Intake Systems and Low-Restriction Air Filters: A Word to the Wise Cold air intake systems and low-restriction air filters are hot aftermarket accessories. Popular among the import tuner crowd, these items may improve engine performance by letting the engine breathe more deeply, reducing the intake air temperature, and cutting down on weight. And for that all-important sound when you wind up the engine, cold air intake systems help produce a deep, throaty tone. Stock air intake systems are designed to clean the intake air, minimize intake noise, and keep water from getting into the intake tract, all the while putting out the most horsepower and torque. Although cold air intake systems and low-restriction air filters kick up engine performance a notch, they also have their dark side. They can really mess up the engine, and that’s not covered by warranty! With cold air intake systems, you run the risk of engine damage from hydro-locking if you drive in wet weather or plow through standing water. These systems are usually designed to draw air from the bottom of the engine compartment or from the front of the radiator where the air is cold and dense. The air filter used in these systems doesn’t sit in an air box, so water that gets sucked into the filter gets sucked right into the engine. When enough water gets into the engine, the piston can’t fully compress the air/fuel mixture (water doesn’t compress) so it stops before reaching top dead center (FDC). Even though the piston stops, the crankshaft just keeps turning from inertia. As a result, the connecting rod bends and gets shorter. With each compression and power stroke, the connecting rod flexes until it eventually fails from metal fatigue. With low-restriction air filters, you run the risk of premature engine wear and contamination. Many of these filters just don’t work as well as stock air filters do. Microscopic debris can get past the filter causing premature wear of the pistons, piston rings, cylinders, and valves. It can also foul up the throttle body, and the components of the intake manifold runner control (IMRC), intake manifold tuning (IMT), and idle air control (IAC) systems. So what’s the bottom line here? Tell your clients they’re taking a really big risk if they run the vehicle with a cold air intake system or a low-restriction air filter. Engine damage caused by these items isn’t covered by warranty, and that could take a big bite out of their pocketbook. |
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Is the standard TL air filter for (2004-2006) a 2-stage type? Looking in my air box, the filter is 2 distinct colors which I assume is 2 different materials. Is this a factory pre-oiled paper filter or a non-oiled filter? I search the internet for Fram, Purolator, and Napa and all that are available for the 3g TL are a single stage paper filter. Is there an available aftermarket 2-stage PAPER replacement filter, or do I stick with the stock Acura part number? I'm not interested in foam or gauze filters because of their poorer filtering ability. Also does anyone have the standard part number for the air filter for an 06 TL? Thanks.
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The standard air cleaner part number is 17220-RDA-A00.
It is about $20 at discount Acura dealers. |
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Gar'ron car name: DEMONA '05 TL Abyss Blue Pearl / Quartz / 5AT w/ Nav |
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I need to change my air filter. How do I remove the clips to the filter housing? Should I just pull up on the cable, or is there a release on the bottom of the clip?
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®ACURA ServiceNews April 2005 Cold Air Intake Systems and Low-Restriction Air Filters: A Word to the Wise Cold air intake systems and low-restriction air filters are hot aftermarket accessories. Popular among the import tuner crowd, these items may improve engine performance by letting the engine breathe more deeply, reducing the intake air temperature, and cutting down on weight. And for that all-important sound when you wind up the engine, cold air intake systems help produce a deep, throaty tone. Stock air intake systems are designed to clean the intake air, minimize intake noise, and keep water from getting into the intake tract, all the while putting out the most horsepower and torque. Although cold air intake systems and low-restriction air filters kick up engine performance a notch, they also have their dark side. They can really mess up the engine, and that’s not covered by warranty! With cold air intake systems, you run the risk of engine damage from hydro-locking if you drive in wet weather or plow through standing water. These systems are usually designed to draw air from the bottom of the engine compartment or from the front of the radiator where the air is cold and dense. The air filter used in these systems doesn’t sit in an air box, so water that gets sucked into the filter gets sucked right into the engine. When enough water gets into the engine, the piston can’t fully compress the air/fuel mixture (water doesn’t compress) so it stops before reaching top dead center (FDC). Even though the piston stops, the crankshaft just keeps turning from inertia. As a result, the connecting rod bends and gets shorter. With each compression and power stroke, the connecting rod flexes until it eventually fails from metal fatigue. With low-restriction air filters, you run the risk of premature engine wear and contamination. Many of these filters just don’t work as well as stock air filters do. Microscopic debris can get past the filter causing premature wear of the pistons, piston rings, cylinders, and valves. It can also foul up the throttle body, and the components of the intake manifold runner control (IMRC), intake manifold tuning (IMT), and idle air control (IAC) systems. So what’s the bottom line here? Tell your clients they’re taking a really big risk if they run the vehicle with a cold air intake system or a low-restriction air filter. Engine damage caused by these items isn’t covered by warranty, and that could take a big bite out of their pocketbook. |
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So, is Chicago OK to use K&N??? I just put it in and it is working Ok.
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I couldn't find a replacement air filter in stock at 3 Pep Boys near me (around Philadelphia area). So I went to the Acura dealership and paid $25 for the Honda filter. Alot of money but saved me more running around.
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I guess the correct thing to di is to "slide it towards the engine" Now, the question I have is where can I get a replacement clip? Is there even a part number for this? Help would be appreciated. |
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GO DAWGS!! SICK'EM!!
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this was pain in my ass doing this DIY. I can not get the clips off of the hose. So disconnect the battery. Man, but I have to say that save me 1 hour labor at dealer.
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Dont Touch My Car !!!
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I did this a week ago and didnt have any problems. I just unscrew the 3-4 screw and the bolt and jiggle the casing loose and took out the filter and stuck the new one in.
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GO DAWGS!! SICK'EM!!
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I got the casing lose, but the back of the casing where the hose are connect it too refuse to come off...and it made it hard for the Filter to come out.
Maybe the more I do, i will get it off... |
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Slow Paper> No Paper
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someone please boot this idiot! This is not a porn forum. ![]() |
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I'm sure it won't be long before that post is removed and this jerk gets booted. |
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It's amazing how quick how some of the administrators on AcuraZine are to swoop down on and close certain threads and/or delete certain posts that don't meet their own 'self-centered' high standards. But here we have something that's still around after 9 hours that should be eradicated. Is anyone aware of the possibility of viruses, spyware, and trojan (no pun intended) horses their machines could get by clicking on one of these pics?
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